In the early 2000s, and in the wake of Living Sacrifice breaking up, a number of emerging Christian metal bands competed to take the same mantle. The Showdown was one of these bands that started with an early fire, yet found their voice in a collection of searing riffs and southern tinged melodies. Did they succeed? Find out on this episode of Discography Discussion! #discussmetal #TheShowdown

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Album of the week
Dan - Death Angel “The Ultraviolence”
Joe - A Plea For Purging “The Life And Death of A Plea For Purging”

Media Mentioned In This Episode:
Episode 118: Limp Bizkit with Lorin Kozlowski of Roach Koach Podcast - http://bit.ly/DDLimpBizkit
Episode 088: Cannibal Corpse - http://bit.ly/DDCannibalCorpse
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The Showdown Episode Playlist:

1. A Monument Encased In Ash
2. Hell Cant Stop Us Now
3. From the Mouth of Gath Comes Terror
4. Fanatics and Whores
5. Breath of the Swamp
6. Achilles-The Backbreaker
7. Aries-I Am Vengeance
8. The Man Named Hell
9. Blood in the Gears
10. Graveyard of Empires

This week on Discography Discussion we tackle all four albums by Remembering Never. Is every hardcore band as preachy as this one? Joe thinks it comes with the territory. Also, we read some Patreon feedback, as well as comments and emails regarding past episodes. Enjoy! #discussmetal #RememberingNever

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Patreon Reviews 044: PIANISSIMO by VIRGIN BLACK - http://bit.ly/PRPianissimo
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Album of the week
Dan - At The Gates “Slaughter Of The Soul”
Joe - Godsmack “Faceless”
Geoff - The Distillers “Coral Fang”

Remembering Never Episode Playlist:

1. Feathers in Heaven
2. Big Jim’s Mistake
3. Heartless
4. For the Love of Fiction
5. Color of Blood and Money
6. Serenading This Dead Horse
7. Monkey Suit
8. United Stockholm Syndrome
9. Little Hitlers
10. Judas Will Swing

Do you believe that Thursday has been divisive from day one? Maybe its a particular playing style, or a vocalist that polarizes the listener. Dan loves Thursday’s vocals, but Geoff and Joe aren’t so convinced. Dan steps up to the plate, and tries to defend one of his favorite bands from the ongoing scrutiny. Enjoy! #discussmetal #Thursday

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Album of the week
Dan - Zao “All Else Failed”
Joe - Black Sabbath “Master Of Reality”
Geoff - Ghost Brigade “Until Fear No Longer Defines Us”

Thursday Episode Playlist:

1. Porcelain
2. This Side of Brightness
3. Understanding in a Car Crash
4. Cross Out the Eyes
5. Paris In Flames
6. I Am The Killer
7. Signals Over the Air
8. Division Street
9. War All the Time
10. We Will Overcome
11. Last Call
12. A Darker Forest

Can noise eventually become art? Converge has been popular for decades for their brand of noise art. People like Dan will just call it Metallic Hardcore, but is there more to it than that? Join us as we go through the Converge Discography and try and figure out when the feedback became ethereal. #discussmetal #Converge

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Album of the week
Dan - Thursday “Full Collapse”
Joe - Converge “Axe to Fall”
Geoff - Voices From The Fuselage “Odyssey: The Founder of Dreams”

Converge Episode Playlist:

1. Fact Leaves its Ghost
2. Dead
3. The Saddest Day
4. Farewell Note to this City
5. Conduit
6. Towing Jehova
7. Concubine
8. Distance and Meaning
9. Jane Doe
10. Last Light
11. You Fail Me
12. Hellbound
13. Grim Heart/ Black Rose
14. Dark Horse
15. Axe to Fall
16. Trespasses
17. Glacial Pace
18. Under Duress
19. The Dusk in Us

Tonight we are joined by Doug Van Pelt of Lust Control and HM Magazine while we discuss the music and impact of The Crucified. We talk about their early punk rock material and their transition into a respected Thrash Metal band. Joe asks Doug about HM Magazine, and he answers… all of it! This is a must listen if you are into impactful 80s and early 90’s Christian thrash and punk music. Enjoy! Also, Joe apologizes for the bad sound in the first five minutes. It was a bad cable, and quick fix. #discussmetal #HeavensMetal #DougVanPelt #TheCrucified

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Album of the week
Dan - Zao “Decoding Transmissions from the Mobius Strip”
Joe - The Clash “London Calling”
Geoff - Death Therapy “The Storm Before The Calm”
Doug - The Neal Morse Band "The Great Adventure"

The Crucified Episode Playlist:

1. Apathy
2. I'm Not Afraid(of Nuclear War)
3. Silent Scream
4. Seal Number 4
5. Conviction
6. I'm Not a Christian Punk
7. You Image
8. The Pit
9. Hellcorn
10. Crucial Moment
11. Path to Sorrow
12. The Strength

It seems like we’ve been discussing a lot of bands lately who are a “sure thing”. Gideon is no exception. Dan and Joe dive into the relatively short discography of Gideon, and explore what it is that they do right that other bands do so wrong. Enjoy! #discussmetal #Gideon

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Album of the week
Dan - Meshuggah “Chaosphere”
Joe - The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza “Danza II: Electric Boogaloo”

Gideon Episode Playlist:

1. Costs
2. False Profits
3. Kingdom Minded
4. Gutter
5. Coward
6. Survive
7. The Limit
8. Prison Eyes
9. Cursed
10. The Game

Society’s Finest sounds really good on paper. Do they have spastic unpredictable song structures? Yes. Do they have a great vocalist that commands the songs? Yes. So what is the problem? Find out what we think the issue is on this episode of Discography Discussion. #discussmetal #SocietysFinest

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Album of the week
Dan - Tomb Mold “The Manor of Infinite Forms”
Joe - Five Iron Frenzy “Engine of a MIllion Plots”
Geoff - My Ticket Home “unReal”

Society’s Finest Episode Playlist:

1. Knife Fight
2. 1955
3. Kiss the Girl
4. Vanity and the Gun
5. Pop Culture in Houston
6. Journeyman
7. Always a Bridesmaid, Never a Bride
8. Cutters Oh Cutters
9. Goddess
10. Deadlight Strangers

Discography Discussion takes a walk off the beaten path this week when Bryan Patton of As The Story Grows joins us to discuss one of his favorite bands, Mewithoutyou. Does a band who seems to be a one trick pony have enough diversity to hold the attention of the listener over 7 albums? #discussmetal #AsTheStoryGrows #mewithoutYou

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Album of the week
Dan - At the Drive In “in/CASINO/out”
Joe - Alice Cooper “Hey Stoopid”
Geoff - Blind Melon “Soup”
Bryan - Pedro The Lion “Phoenix”

mewithoutYou Episode Playlist:

1. Bullet to Binary
2. Gentleman
3. January 1979
4. My Exit, Unfair
5. O, Porcupine
6. The Sun and the Moon
7. The Fox, the Crow, and the Cookie
8. The King Beetle on the Coconut Estate
9. February 1878
10. Fox’s Dream of the Log Flume
11. D-Minor
12. Red Cow
13. Julia
14. New Wine, New Skins

It’s not too often that a band catches us completely by surprise. This was very much the case with My Ticket Home. Although short, their discography takes a wild amounts of twists and turns. Join us as we try to figure out where this band is going to rest their sound, if they decide to land on one at all. #discussmetal #MyTicketHome

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Album of the week
Dan - Weezer “Teal”
Joe - My Ticket Home “Strangers Only”
Geoff - Medeia “Xenosis”

My Ticket Home Episode Playlist:

1. Who is 67?
2. Beyond
3. Dark Days
4. Spit Not Chewed
5. Teenage Cremation
6. Foul Stench of Youth
7. Kick Rocks
8. Thrush
9. Hyperreal
10. Cellophane

After one hundred episodes, it’s time for Norma Jean. The band who has been mentioned more times in the history of the podcast than any other band is finally broken down into tiny pieces and then rebuilt. Brandon Kellum of American Standards joins us to discuss every album by this band we all grew up with. #discussmetal #NormaJean

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Norma Jean full set 2/3/2003 St. Louis - https://youtu.be/nfQE0JCyRVs
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Albums of the week
Dan - Hopesfall “Arbiter”
Joe - Norma Jean “Polar Similar”
Geoff - Jets to Brazil “Orange Rhyming Dictionary”
Brandon - The Threats

Norma Jean Episode Playlist:

1. Memphis Will Be Laid to Waste
2. Face:Face
3. Bayonetwork
4. Disconnecktie
5. Songs Sound Much Sadder
6. A Small Spark vs A Great Forest
7. Robots 3 Humans 0
8. And There Will Be A Swarm of Hornets
9. Deathbed Atheist
10. Bastardizer
11. Wrongdoers
12. Sword in Mouth Fire Eyes
13. 1,000,000 Watts
14. Everyone Talking Over Everyone Else

If you haven’t listened to Spitfire, you are missing out, and on this episode of Discography Discussion, Dan and Joe are going to tell you why. Did you ever go ape with the meth monster at the meat market? #discussmetal #Spitfire

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Album of the week
Dan - Ill Nino “Dead New World”
Joe - Spitfire “Cult Fiction”

Spitfire Episode Playlist:

1. Please Don’t Go Out Tonight
2. Render Quench Create
3. The Burgundy Room
4. Meat Market
5. Dear John
6. Go Ape
7. Arrhythmia Drift
8. Mother Earth in Labor
9. The Animal Kingdom of Heavens Gate
10. Meth Monster

Not all bands can be genre defining innovators. Sometimes that’s not what people even want. Is it okay that Fit For A King are one of those bands that just does what they do very well? Find out on this episode of Discography Discussion. #discussmetal #FitForAKing

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Album of the week
Dan - Norma Jean “Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child”
Joe - Spitfire “Cult Fiction”
Geoff - Cold Night For Alligators “Fervor”

Fit For A King Episode Playlist:

1. Ancient Waters
2. The Architect
3. Warpath
4. Skin and Bones
5. Kill the Pain
6. Slave to Nothing
7. Break Away
8. Pissed Off
9. Disease
10. Backbreaker

Shadows Fall may be one of the best American heavy metal bands to do their own thing during the metalcore phenomenon of the early 2000s. Joe and Geoff love em…..but do they please our local “Unpleasable Metal Fan” Dan? Listen to the episode to find out! #discussmetal #ShadowsFall

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Album of the week
Dan - All That Remains “Victim Of The New Disease”
Joe - Trivium “Vengeance Falls”
Geoff - Hallow Point “Beyond Our Name”

Shadows Fall Episode Playlist:

1. Eternal
2. Crushing Belial
3. To Ashes
4. Destroyer of Senses
5. A Fire in Babylon
6. Welcome to the Machine
7. Inspiration on Demand
8. The Light that Blinds
9. Failure of the Devout
10. King of Nothing
11. Fire From the Sky
12. Blind Faith

Glassjaw is a band that means many things to many people. They introduced a style unfamiliar to a majority of the nu-metal crowd in the early 2000s, and brought forth a chaotic, heart-wrenching sound that may or may not stand up to the test of time. On this episode, we are joined by special guest Alfonso Civile of the band Heartsick as we analyze Glassjaw’s brief, but influential career. #discussmetal #Glassjaw #Heartsick

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1. Pretty Lush
2. When One Eight Becomes Two Zeros
3. Lovebites and Razorblades
4. Motel of the White Locust
5. Tip Your Bartender
6. Ape Dos Mil
7. Cosmopolitan Bloodloss
8. Shira
9. Golgotha
10. Bibleland 6

Dan and Joe blow through the thunder, and take a look at Sleeping Giant. In addition to discussing the band’s discography, Dan takes a hard look at the band’s overall approach, preaching, and tries to determine whether or not Preach Core Lives. #discussmetal #SleepingGiant #PreachCoreLives

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Album of the week
Dan - Mark Morrison “Return Of The Mack”
Joe - Sleeping Giant “Dread Champions of the Last Days”

Sleeping Giant Episode Playlist:

1. Whoremonger
2. Blame it on the Holy Rollers
3. Behold the Pale Horse
4. Gang Signs
5. Sons of Thunder
6. Dead Man Walking
7. Eyes Wide Open
8. Radical Love
9. Violence
10. Preach Core Lives

The Doomhammer invades this episode of Discography Discussion as we discuss those fun troublemakers….The Agony Scene. Dan, Joe, and Buddy discuss whether The Agony Scene ever got any better than The Darkest Red. They discuss all the various record labels the band has been on despite their career and their triumphant return! #discussmetal #TheAgonyScene

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Album of the week
Dan - Revulsed “Infernal Atrocity”
Joe - Animals As Leaders “Animals As Leaders”
Buddy - Shadow of Intent “Reclaimer”

The Agony Scene Episode Playlist:

1. We Bury Our Dead at Dawn
2. Lines of Suicide
3. Paint it Black
4. The Darkest Red
5. Prey
6. Scapegoat
7. Predation
8. Barn Burner
9. The Ascent and Decline
10. The Submissive

We follow “Blindside” from their underground punk/hardcore roots all the way through to their mainstream hard rock success, and beyond. We also break down our expectations and excitement for the new “Tourniquet” announcement, as well as update the latest on the Vinnie Vincent saga. Watch out for “Unpleasable Metal Fan,” this is Discography Discussion. #Blindside #unpleasablemetalfan

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Albums of the week
Dan - Testament “Dark Roots of the Earth”
Joe - Showbread “No Sir, Nihilism Is Not Practical”
Geoff - MGMT “Oracular Spectacular”

Blindside Episode Playlist:

1. Invert
2. Daughter
3. King of the Closet
4. As You Walk
5. Sleepwalking
6. Pitiful
7. Follow You Down
8. Heartattack
9. Fell in Love With the Game
10. When I Remember

We dive into the swirling pool of chaos known as The Dillinger Escape Plan, as requested by Mathew and Chelsea. Can a band still deliver “the goods” despite tons of experimentation? What kind of song would a “church burner” be? Find out on this episode of Discography Discussion. #discussmetal #TheDillingerEscapePlan #chaos

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Albums of the week
Dan - Coalesce “Give Them Rope”
Joe - My Ticket Home “Strangers Only”
Geoff - Agoraphobic Nosebleed “Agorapocalypse”

The Dillinger Escape Plan Episode Playlist:

1. 43% Burnt
2. Sugar Coated Sour
3. Highway Robbery
4. Baby’s First Coffin
5. Black Bubblegum
6. Fix Your Face
7. Gold Teeth on A Bum
8. I Wouldn’t If You Didn’t
9. One of Us Is the Killer
10. Cross Burner
11. Symptom of Terminal Illness
12. Manufacturing Discontent

Tonight, we burn the midnight oil with Reid and Christian of Tetelestai. We talk about the differences between old metalcore, modern metalcore, and where the disconnect is. The band talks about their debut release ‘CRVSH SVTVN’ What is new about it? And what hearkens back to the primordial days of metalcore. Plus a variety of other topics. So grab something with caffeine in it and settle in for this marathon of an episode. #discussmetal #Tetelestai #ANewHeavy
“What did he say about Living Sacrifice?!!”
Find Tetelestai online at https://www.anewheavy.com

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Media mentioned in this episode:
“It appears as though there are no survivors” https://youtu.be/7SeYKfN2qnQ
Reid Otto and Christian Johnson of Tetelestai on “As The Story Grows” https://goo.gl/huSJqT

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Dan - Coalesce “Ox” https://goo.gl/8J3DDe
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Reid/Christian - Jonny Lang “Lie To Me” https://goo.gl/Evxtam
Ayreon - “Day One: Vigil (The Human Equation)” https://goo.gl/U7wSdx

Episode Playlist:
Deadguy-Doom Patrol
Botch-Frequency Ass Bandit
Converge-Distance and Meaning
Coalesce-Have Patience
Spitfire-Render Quench Create
Living Sacrifice-Not Beneath
Zao-Repressed
Symphony In Peril-Portrait
Scarlet-Get Your Gun

Brandon Kellum returns to celebrate Dan’s birthday, and to talk about Underoath with three drunk dudes, and a room full of onlookers. It’s time to define the great line as Discography Discussion dissects Underoath from beginning to end. You can feel your heartbeat racing as the cries from the past are only changing safety. #DancingAround #discussmetal #Underoath

Brandon Kellum and American Standards can be found online at https://americanstndrds.bandcamp.com && https://twitter.com/americanstndrds

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Our Albums of the week
Dan - Dying Fetus “Wrong One To Fuck With”
Joe - Travil “Beautiful Loneliness”
Geoff - Tesseract “Altered State”
Brandon - Converge “The Dusk In Us”

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Underoath Episode Playlist:
Watch Me Die
The Last
Cries of the Past
When the Sun Sleeps
Angel Below
It’s Dangerous Business Walking Out Your Front Door
In Regards to Myself
Everyone Looks So Good From Here
A Fault Line, A Fault of Mine
Desperate Times, Desperate Measures
Catch Myself Catching Myself
Illuminator